Comments on: Google Android – YAP http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/mobility/2007/11/05/google-android-yap/ Thoughts on Mobile Software, Development & Technologies Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:43:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: ceo http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/mobility/2007/11/05/google-android-yap/comment-page-1/#comment-2518 ceo Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:56:57 +0000 http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/mobility/2007/11/05/google-android-yap/#comment-2518 Yes both Esmertec and Aplix who are part of the OHA have their own Java VMs and MIDP implementations. It is going to be interesting to see how all this evolves, and what VM vendor wins on what handsets. This of course doesn't address the Java fragmentation problem. :-) ceo Yes both Esmertec and Aplix who are part of the OHA have their own Java VMs and MIDP implementations. It is going to be interesting to see how all this evolves, and what VM vendor wins on what handsets. This of course doesn’t address the Java fragmentation problem. :-)

ceo

]]> By: AU http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/mobility/2007/11/05/google-android-yap/comment-page-1/#comment-2508 AU Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:49:02 +0000 http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/mobility/2007/11/05/google-android-yap/#comment-2508 Android guys simply cannot mention supports "Java" as Android seems to be truly open and free to use in commercial device products. Java isn't free for commercial usage as most TCKs (e.g. all from Sun) are missing open source licenses. See for good discussion about this: http://www.bugblogger.com/2007/10/gpl-sun-java-tr.html Esmertec and Aplix sell commercial Java implementation products as they have got licenses from Sun (and others) to the required Java ME TCKs. What it means that they are happy to see them also to Android using device manufacturers. What Java tech-ecosystem would need is fully free and open "Java". I hope open handset alliance will eventually release also compatibility kits for free-Java but then everybody would start to use some other name for this technology. Hey OJ! Android guys simply cannot mention supports “Java” as Android seems to be truly open and free to use in commercial device products. Java isn’t free for commercial usage as most TCKs (e.g. all from Sun) are missing open source licenses. See for good discussion about this:
http://www.bugblogger.com/2007/10/gpl-sun-java-tr.html

Esmertec and Aplix sell commercial Java implementation products as they have got licenses from Sun (and others) to the required Java ME TCKs. What it means that they are happy to see them also to Android using device manufacturers.

What Java tech-ecosystem would need is fully free and open “Java”. I hope open handset alliance will eventually release also compatibility kits for free-Java but then everybody would start to use some other name for this technology. Hey OJ!

]]> By: Sean Sheedy http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/mobility/2007/11/05/google-android-yap/comment-page-1/#comment-2507 Sean Sheedy Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:09:09 +0000 http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/mobility/2007/11/05/google-android-yap/#comment-2507 Your analysis may be pretty close. May I predict that the Java will be pretty much the focus for third-party developers (and will be pretty open) and that the "native" Linux platform will be closed. November 12th should be interesting. Here are my thoughts, in answer to a question a friend asked, as to what I thought of Android. http://weblogs.java.net/blog/sean_sheedy/archive/2007/11/on_the_android.html Your analysis may be pretty close. May I predict that the Java will be pretty much the focus for third-party developers (and will be pretty open) and that the “native” Linux platform will be closed. November 12th should be interesting. Here are my thoughts, in answer to a question a friend asked, as to what I thought of Android.

http://weblogs.java.net/blog/sean_sheedy/archive/2007/11/on_the_android.html

]]> By: ceo http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/mobility/2007/11/05/google-android-yap/comment-page-1/#comment-2506 ceo Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:30:11 +0000 http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/mobility/2007/11/05/google-android-yap/#comment-2506 Yes, seeing Aplix and Esmertec as members, I realize they would supply <em>some kind</em> of Java VM... hopefully minimizing new APIs or more fragmentation. Thanks. ceo Yes, seeing Aplix and Esmertec as members, I realize they would supply some kind of Java VM… hopefully minimizing new APIs or more fragmentation. Thanks.

ceo

]]> By: Wendong http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/mobility/2007/11/05/google-android-yap/comment-page-1/#comment-2499 Wendong Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:32:10 +0000 http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/mobility/2007/11/05/google-android-yap/#comment-2499 According to the press release, Esmertec will provide Java ME on top of Android. "Thanks to the availability of our Jbed Java VM on the Android platform, we offer immediate compatibility to the standard Java ME world to enable Java ME-based mobile services with the Android platform." http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/20071105_mobile_open.html According to the press release, Esmertec will provide Java ME on top of Android.

“Thanks to the availability of our Jbed Java VM on the Android platform, we offer immediate compatibility to the standard Java ME world to enable Java ME-based mobile services with the Android platform.”
http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/20071105_mobile_open.html

]]> By: Ike Elliott http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/mobility/2007/11/05/google-android-yap/comment-page-1/#comment-2497 Ike Elliott Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:49:05 +0000 http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/mobility/2007/11/05/google-android-yap/#comment-2497 You are dead-on in this analysis. Google is starting to display the same kind of cocky, "we can mold the world into our own image," thinking that Microsoft started showing when they began to head downhill. More on my blog at http://ikeelliott.typepad.com/telecosm/2007/11/google-android-.html You are dead-on in this analysis. Google is starting to display the same kind of cocky, “we can mold the world into our own image,” thinking that Microsoft started showing when they began to head downhill.

More on my blog at http://ikeelliott.typepad.com/telecosm/2007/11/google-android-.html

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